March 17, 2007

Turn A Boring Campfire Into A Colorful Light Show

Do you want your campfire to be an explosion of colors rather than just those boring yellow and orange flames?

This spring and summer, a product called “Funky Colored Flames” will be available at major retailers including WalMart. What are they? They are a product you sprinkle on your campfire that, five minutes after being applied, creates a brilliant display of blue, green, and purple flames that last up to 30 minutes.

And you don’t have to wait until you have a campfire to use them. They can also be used in outdoor fire pits, on bonfires, and even indoors in wood burning fireplaces.

Although I wasn’t able to find a website for the “funky flames,” from Winlow Outdoor Experiences , their phone number is 416.792.0385. You might want to contact them for a local retailers if you are unable to find them in your area.

Or, if you want to do what my family does to create multi-colored blue, green, and purple flames when we go camping; purchase a piece of copper tubing (available in the plumbing supply section of your local hardware store either - usually in lengths several feet long) in a width that will fit inside a garden/outdoor water hose. If you don’t have a rubber garden hose laying around home that has seen better days and can be cut up, check garage sales or ask friends and family if that have an old leaky one you can borrow. You can purchase one if you prefer, but you’ll be cutting it up in chunks and burning it, so there’s no need to purchase an expensive one. You want the copper tubing to fit in the garden hose snugly though. Also, since you’ll be cutting up the copper tubing, you may want to check with your local plumber to see if he or she has scrap pieces you can buy.

Cut the hose and copper tubing into 3-4 inch pieces. Push the copper tubing inside the hose. Take several pieces with you on your camping trip. When the campfire is hot, place one to two of the copper tubing/rubber hose pieces into the fire. The heat will cause a reaction to take place between the copper and the rubber resulting in blue, purple, and green flames that will last for about as long as the “funky colored flames,” around 30 minutes. This technique can only be used outside though, not indoors.

Also, I am not an expert on what burning copper tubing and rubber hose does to the environment. Don’t do it if it’s not allowed at the campground you are staying at. So far I have not found any campgrounds that don’t allow this. In fact, there are a few in my area that sell the pieces of copper tubing and hose already assembled and ready to throw into a campfire.

We have also used old Christmas tree light strands to get the same effect as the copper tubing and hose pieces, but you need to make sure to remove all the glass bulbs, along with their plastic holders, from the light sets first which is kind of tedious and time-consuming. When I do it, I use a wire cutters and snip the wires off between each bulb, ending up with lots of short wire strands that I toss into a small plastic storage bin. At the campground, I toss a couple handfuls of the wire into the campfire, sit back, and wait for the lightshow to begin. Again, this can only be done outdoors and I don’t know if this has any harmful effects on the environment (or any more than burning wood does).

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June 5, 2007

Kathy Zwicky @ 9:34 am:

We have purchased some of you funky flames, and used them in a campfire. We are totallly disappointed in them as they barely showed any color for even two minutes, and they are truely overpriced. We would not recommend them to anyone.

Kathy Zwicky @ 10:07 pm:

We have purchased some of your funky flames and used them in a campfire. We are totally dissapointed in them as they barely showed any color and only lasted two minutes. We also think they are way overpriced, and wouldn’t recommend them to anyone.

June 12, 2007

Anonymous @ 9:22 am:

Kathy,

It’s good to know that they don’t work well. Thank you for sharing your experience.

Have you tried placing a piece of copper tubing inside a piece of garden hose? We usually take about a 3″ piece of each and place it in the fire. It lasts about 20 minutes. I”m not exactly sure what the reaction is that takes place between the hose and the copper tubing but it’s important to place the copper tubing inside the hose so you want to make sure you get tubing that will fit inside the hose - snugly is best. That’s what we’ve done while camping for years. We always use old garden hose and we have a 10 foot tube of copper tubing that we’ve used for the past 5 years and still have a lot of it left.

I just heard about the funky flames this year but haven’t tried them because I haven’t been able to buy them anywhere.

June 21, 2007

KIMBERLY @ 6:46 pm:

THE FUNKY FLAMES DO NOT WORK AT ALL. I WOULD NOT SUGGEST THEM TO ANYONE!!!

June 29, 2007

Jeremy @ 10:49 am:

A number of years ago, my family used the hose and copper tube idea. It worked well, but we stopped using them because some in our group said they got sick from it. I don’t remember getting sick, but that would make sense since you are buring rubber.

July 1, 2007

lisa chiles @ 1:04 pm:

The funky flames were so neat…….for 2 minutes. Very disappointed for the price I paid for them and so were the kids.

August 2, 2007

CamperDave @ 6:58 am:

We have used the copper tube and garden hose trick a few times ourselves. The only difference for us is that we take the copper tube and put the garden hose inside …. opposite of what you say you do. Works great … but don’t roast marshmallows at the same time. They will taste rubbery (and probably are not good for you either!)

August 7, 2007

Dorrie @ 9:28 am:

CamperDave,

I asked my brother in law, who is a chemistry teacher, if it mattered which was inside the other and why both copper tubing and garden hose were important components.
He said he thinks the garden hose is just there to help get a hotter flame going which helps the copper tubing produce more color and more color variety.
He didn’t think it mattered which was inside the other but said that on our family camping trip next month we should try an experiment (I guess he’s curious too).
We’re going to try three things:
We’re going to do garden hose inside the copper tubing like you do; copper tubing inside the garden hose, and copper tubing without any garden hose because he thinks the hose is just there to produce a hotter fire and that it may not make that much difference in color production if it’s not present.
Cuz, like you said, the garden hose gives marshmallows a funny taste, and it smells too.

August 12, 2007

Anna Eagan @ 3:29 pm:

I was very disappointed in the Funky Flames product. Like the others state, the colors only lasted 2 minutes, and they were not at all as bright and big and the picture on the box showed. Paid about $5.50 for them, and would ask for my money back if possible.

September 17, 2007

Jackie @ 10:11 am:

The “Funky Flames” you speak of, cool idea - 3 packages of Sodium Bicarbonate & whatever else for 4.95 at your wal-mart… pretty disappointing - used it up at a GS camp a few weeks before finding this blog - the colors were there, I believe the reaction has some thing to do with the heat of the fire - my suggestion get some napkins & pour baking soda in one, pepto bismol tabs in another, use the garden hose + copper tubing trick. make your own funky flames…
some one told me steel wool burns a red flame -
Happy Fires!

AdventureDad @ 1:41 pm:

I heard about the copper pipe/garden house trick last summer from an RV campsite grounds keeper. His version had the garden house inside the copper tube and the copper tube had several holes drilled all around for the full length of the tube (about 18 inches). I didn’t get to see the gizmo in action, but I’m hoping to try it out on a camping trip in 2 weeks. Not toasting marshmellows at the same time sounds like a valid tip. Thanks.

September 25, 2007

badger @ 12:00 am:

I have tried the copper in hose and it gives a lot of neat colors, but i got tired of trying to get the copper inside the hose and just started putting both in the fire near each other and found I get the same reaction

October 17, 2007

AdventureDad @ 6:59 am:

Well, I had a chance to try the copper pipe and garden hose and it worked amazingly well.

I bought a 3/4 diameter copper pipe about 2 feet long. I then used my drill press to drill 3/8 inch holes in a checkerboard pattern the full length of the pipe.

I then cut a 1/2″ garden hose into sections about 1′ 11″ long and inserted one into the pipe.

When the fire was nice and hot, we stuck the pipe horizontally into the fire stack. Witin a minute or two the flames started turning blue and green. There were still normal colored flames, but it was the blue and green that stole the show. These lasted for about 45 minutes (probably because of amount of hose in there)

Once they stopped, we pulled the pipe out of the fire, let it cool off, cleaned it out with a branch (some crusty ashes in there), stuck in another section of hose and put it back in the fire and off it went again.

There was no ‘burning rubber’ smell nor did the smoke hurt our eyes anymore than normal. Of course we waited until after the kids were done with their ’smores and didn’t allow them to get real close to the fire just to be on the safe side.

Try it. I highly recommend it.

November 2, 2007

Larry @ 2:20 pm:

The copper hose & hose work. We also use old coated copper wire. Any type seems to work old extension cords,light cords,house wireing etc. wrap it up and put it into a hot fire. We use hollow logs up right to make a chimney once it is burning hot toss some wire in. The plus is at the current prize of copper you can sell the wire for scrap after the coating is burnt off.( We got $170 for the last we took in)

November 29, 2007

Joe @ 6:43 pm:

I heard that burning garden hose is toxic, and environmentally degrading… Is this true?

February 20, 2008

Dorrie @ 3:56 pm:

Joe,

I did a little research and you’re right. Burning garden hose (or any other type of rubber or plastic) does release toxic pollutants into the air.

We won’t be burning garden how and copper tubing in our campfires anymore.

Regards,

Doreen

April 6, 2008

Perry & Lauren @ 11:59 am:

We did not see ANY color from these so-called “Funky Colored Flames”. I would tell people not to bother wasting their money on these… would have been awesome if it worked!

May 26, 2008

Pamela @ 4:18 pm:

It was my wonderful sister-in-law’s 55th birthday on May 22nd. She is a real nature buff and loves being around a camp-fire. She has been in a depressed state, so I thought that buying some “Funky Flames” and planning a bon-fire would be perfect for her.

I had bragged about this to the people in attendance. As soon as we had a respectable fire going, all 9 of us were anxiously waiting for these magical “Funky Flames”. They advise putting 3 pouches (@ $2.00 per package) onto your bon-fire and I put on five to make sure. Imagine the disappointment and embarrassment after finding that NOTHING HAPPENED to the bon-fire flames!

SAVE YOUR MONEY — THESE DO NOT WORK! JUST GLAD I DIDN’T USE THE OTHER FIVE.

June 22, 2008

Dave & Sarah @ 10:05 am:

The funky flames are not worth it–but if you have a lot of extra cash to blow, pickup eight boxes and put them on the fire. I promise you, they’ll work. They need to be in the middle of the fire for best results.

Even then though it worked; eight boxes for 20 minutes of light show magic? Not worth it.. If you really want to muck with changing flames the hose idea works the best but it does stink if you’re downwide of it.

June 24, 2008

Karen Dyer @ 4:14 pm:

What duds the Funky Colored Flames are. No color flames at all. The box said we would have 30 minutes of Blue, Green and Purple. Wow, that is so not true. I am going to bring the box back to Wal-mart and demand my money back and I will tell everyone I know what a rip off Funky Colored Flames are.

June 25, 2008

Hezonit @ 7:48 pm:

The garden hose material that you seek is to make this colored flame work well is poly vinyl chloride (PVC). When combined with the copper it will produce very lovely flames. When you burn this material it releases several gases. One of those gases being phosgene gas. Perhaps you have heard of this gas. It was quite popular during World War I where it was used as a chemical weapon. I will take my campfires without any nerve gas please.

July 12, 2008

Gregg @ 7:58 am:

I also bought the “Funky Flames” thinking that it would be cool to freak out my friends while we were camping. but very little happened the tips of the flame did get a little color and the base where the package was burning a little color but only lasted maybe 2 minutes i too am very disapointed and wouldn’t recommend wasting the 5 bucks on a product like this

July 31, 2008

Rob @ 2:32 pm:

I agree! Those things are a total waste of money. Talk about feeling duped!

August 24, 2008

Roberto @ 1:49 pm:

THIS PRODUCT IS A HORRIBLE IDEA THE COPPER TUBING IS KING BUT DON’T GO AND SPEND 5$ TO GET THE WORST LIGHT SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN. THE PICTURE ON THE BOX LIES DON’T LET THE LIES KILL YOUR WALLET!

August 29, 2008

Gary @ 11:44 am:

I read where the 3 basic ingredients used to make
“Funky Flames” was sodium chloride (salt),
potassium chloride and copper sulfate. All of which can be bought for a lot less elsewhere. I have not tried this yet but maybe using greater amounts than what comes in the overpriced box of “Funky Flames”, might be the answer. Sure would be a lot cheaper.
Information reference came from the following site.
http://thismaterialworld.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/funky-flames/

October 2, 2008

Becky @ 8:37 am:

We burned an old Christmas net light set that only half of the lights worked on. The colors were great- the smell of burning plastic, not so much. The smell didn’t last long- not near as long as the colors from the wire. I was worried about the pollution aspect and would like to try something like this again next summer at our family camp. Any other ideas? As far as funky colors go; 10-15 years ago my children and I made fireplace baskets and bought fire sprinkles at a fireplace store and they worked great. I cant remember the name of the product- let me know if you want more info on this and I will do some research!

October 14, 2008

Linda Mitchell @ 4:41 pm:

Yes, we were given them as a gift along with some other camp gear. We got no different fire than before they were put on the fire. Is there nothing at all you can do about this? It is definitely false advertising.
Thanks for the insight.

November 24, 2008

Tony. @ 12:50 am:

Try putting an old VW engine block in your camp fire and see what happens . Do not look directly at the light this gives off as it will damage your eyes . Also do not stand too close with bare skin as this will cause serious sun burn and some . Do not do this close to vehicles ,tents ,gas bottles , camping gear or pets ect ,ect. OH and what ever you do do not try to put it out with water this can be explosive

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